Sky Sports preseter Jamie Carragher and studio guests - both former Bluebirds - Danny Gabbidon and Craig Bellamy talked about three 'red card' challenges in the 0 - 0 draw between Cardiff and Newcastle.
There could have been another red card after Manquilo got away with a shirt pull on Josh Murphy, the Newcastle player was already on a yellow card but let's concentrate on the more serious incidents.
There's plenty to debate between Arter's yellow and Hayden's red. Possibly there could have been no complaints if the decisions were reversed. From my view the decision to book Harry Arter was correct, it was a trip (albeit high and cynical) rather than a lunge which I think is why I think Hayden got his red, high and on the back of the leg, but as Carragher says a yellow may have been accepted by most people.
Jack Wilshire for West Ham recieved a similar yellow to Arter so the incidents must be classed as yellow card offences.
But I think Kenedy is in trouble. His wasn't a lunge or a trip. It wasn't even a foul it was a blatant kick at Victor Camarasa and as such he can expect a retrospective 3 match ban for violent conduct. So Neil Warnock was right that it was 'poetic justice' that he missed the penalty as he shouldn't have been on the pitch to take it.
Foul one - Kennedy kick
Gabbidon: He's a very lucky boy. If the referee sees it, I think it's a straight red card. He's right there, but not looking at the incident really, and I think it might have done Newcastle a favour had he gone off because the incident summed up his incident for me.
Carragher: Kenedy should have been sent off. I cannot understand how the referee hasn't seen it, because he gives a free-kick for it. He kicks out and it's a red card. Whether the referee has followed the ball only he knows, but he gives a free-kick. I think he knows something has happened and that he's missed something.
Foul two - Hayden red card
Carragher: I think with this incident, he's just missed it and knows something's gone on. Now that is high - and it catches him on the back of the calf, referees may come on here and say that's a red card, but I think if that's given as a yellow card no-one complains or bats an eyelid.
Some people might say it's an orange, but I think it's a bit harsh. Referees may come on and say excessive force, you're endangering an opponent, that type of thing - I think that was very harsh. I think he's made a big mistake in the first one, and I think he looks at that and thinks he can't get two wrong, so if it's borderline he's going. I felt a little bit for him.
Bellamy: I can see why he's given it. It's a bit too high for me, there's some force and he's come on at half-time and given him a torrid time, he's fouled him a few times before already. From the referee's point of view, if you catch the end bit, it looks high and reckless, I can understand it being a red card.
Foul three - Arter yellow
Carragher: This might be the worst one. It absolutely has to be a red card. You can nick someone's ankles and get a yellow with a counter-attack, but he absolutely volleys him knee-height. It's worse than Kenedy's. Hayden is at least going for the ball, but that's the worst of the lot.
I don't think the referee had a good game, but that's a shocking challenge. That could really seriously hurt someone. You hear about broken legs or over the top challenges, and he's volleying his knee like it's a ball on the edge of the box.
Gabbidon: I can remember Granit Xhaka doing something similar for Arsenal in his first season at the Emirates and he got a red card for it, so talking about consistency, there's no intention to play the ball, it's cynical and for me it's a red card.